tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9014106.post1911539676449593774..comments2023-09-08T01:35:21.679-07:00Comments on Zaki's Corner / Zaki Hasan: Zaki's Retro Review: Star Trek Nemesis (2002)Zakihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06150118173142516267noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9014106.post-28179063405329492242009-06-24T07:04:52.916-07:002009-06-24T07:04:52.916-07:00Another interesting review, Zaki. While I, unlike...Another interesting review, Zaki. While I, unlike yourself, am more inclined to give the edge to a bad TNG movie than a TOS movie, I can certainly agree that this is a film with plenty of flaws.<br /><br />As Ian says, the dune buggy sequence is way off. It seems more than anything to reflect a desire on Stewart's part that he really wanted to drive a cool vehicle in high speed.<br /><br />I also agree on a lot of Ian's comments on the whole Romulan/Reman situation, but would have to say that what disturbed me the most was that the whole set up with a Romulan underground and political fractions (set up in the <i>Unification</i> two-parter of TNG) is just left out there in the void. And it seems as if that would have been MUCH more fertile ground to root a Romulan ST film in.<br /><br />Secondly, the colossal surprise and incredulity in handling B4 also seems disingenuous. I mean, have the film makers forgotten all about Lore? It's not as if there isn't a precedent here.<br /><br />I'm not saying that the film needs be referencing the TV shows ad infinitum, but missing out on MAJOR bits that are important to the film (as in these two cases), just seems like bad research and/or writing.<br /><br />Ah well, just my penny.<br /><br />And for the record, I too have enjoyed this ten piece retro review deal Zaki (and, Ian, your coat tailing has been noted with appreciation as well).The Mad Swedehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11909803239199450139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9014106.post-29088758977304222772009-05-10T22:19:00.000-07:002009-05-10T22:19:00.000-07:00This movie sucked butt.This movie sucked butt.Mr. Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11828619923603142008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9014106.post-91155937528934766482009-05-09T22:20:00.000-07:002009-05-09T22:20:00.000-07:00Khan. I mean Khan.
I'm still a bit spinny from ...<B>Khan</B>. I mean <B>Khan</B>.<br /><br />I'm still a bit spinny from the cold I had this past week and seeing the new <B>Star Trek</B> film today.<br /><br />Now <B>THERE'S</B> a movie!!Ian Sokoliwskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088518873613161316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9014106.post-57907719661900068372009-05-09T22:18:00.000-07:002009-05-09T22:18:00.000-07:00If by wing man you mean riding on your coat tails,...If by <I>wing man</I> you mean <I>riding on your coat tails</I>, then I agree :D<br /><br />I've really enjoyed these reviews. They've saved me from <I>having</I> to rewatch the entire series of films, and encouraged me to rewatch <B>Kahn</B> and <B>First Contact</B>. So, win/win!Ian Sokoliwskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088518873613161316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9014106.post-80583988823615357592009-05-09T13:25:00.000-07:002009-05-09T13:25:00.000-07:00I believe he had been rapidly aged over something ...I believe he had been rapidly aged over something like ten years. That's also the reason he's in such bad shape by the end, because it was killing him prematurely.Zakihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14014455379015009582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9014106.post-23055093440454465412009-05-09T12:00:00.000-07:002009-05-09T12:00:00.000-07:00Haven't seen the movie in a few years, was there a...Haven't seen the movie in a few years, was there anything in it that indicated Shinzon was aged at an accelerated rate? If not, and since he appeared to be about 25 years old, you have to wonder how the Romulans knew way back when that Picard would be a good subject to clone, long before he ever even became a captain.Tyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01874797503792047387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9014106.post-76696245712700807032009-05-08T19:15:00.000-07:002009-05-08T19:15:00.000-07:00Dude, great comments. Can't say I disagree with an...Dude, great comments. Can't say I disagree with anything, except that I'll always give any bad TOS flick the edge over a bad TNG one. <br /><br />Excellent point about the Remans. Totally pointless. <br /><br />Thanks for all of your commentary on all ten flicks. I feel like you've been my wing man. :-)Zakihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14014455379015009582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9014106.post-86631483963346425192009-05-08T17:48:00.000-07:002009-05-08T17:48:00.000-07:00oy.
I tried watching this again last night.
It w...oy.<br /><br />I tried watching this again last night.<br /><br />It was a decent enough attempt. Two different TV stations were broadcasting it at pretty much the same time, plus one of them rebroadcast it a few hours later.<br /><br />Plus, I've just got the DVD sitting there on the shelf with the rest of the movie series.<br /><br />And I could not do it. I could not make it all the way through. After about a half hour or so, I went and watched the second half of <B>First Contact</B> instead...eventually making it back to the still-running <B>Nemesis</B> to catch the last twenty minutes.<br /><br />To be clear, I <I>have</I> watched it all the way through in the past. At least twice, I do believe. But then I tend to leave movies running while working, so it's easy to zoom past the bad bits (as opposed to actually trying to watch the thing).<br /><br />That dune buggy sequence. Did anything about that make sense? I mean, correct me if I'm wrong here, but wasn't that entire scene written just to have a <B>Road Warrior</B> pastiche at the end of it? I just hope that those aliens on the other equally-improbable buggies were actually telepathic twins (triplets? whatever) with Corsican accents. (and if those guys aren't in the new <B>G.I.JOE</B> movie then I ain't gonna bother with it ;) ) Anyhoo, if you have the kind of tech level that Starfleet has, why would you issue leftover Cobra vehicles to boogie around the outback in? Guh.<br /><br />Is it worse than <B>The Final Frontier</B>? No. It never got <I>quite</I> as uncomfortably bad as that one was. There were lots of fun ideas. Heck, I'm a big fan of the whole <I>evil twin</I> and <I>alternate version of Data</I> idea...but neither of those things worked here. The <B>Scimitar</B> looked damn cool...but never got beyond looking cool.<br /><br />Although the whole <I>ramming starships</I> idea was awesome! Probably that's what elevates this for me over <B>Frontier</B>. Oh, it's stupid as all outdoors, but anything that visceral is gonna make me happy.<br /><br />Maybe this would have worked better if they had also taken a few notions from <B>The Undiscovered Country</B>, and set it just <I>after</I> Riker took command of the <B>Titan</B> - perhaps having both the Enterprise and the Titan, and the storytelling gymnastics involved in getting them both to Romulus, could have actually trimmed away some of the sillier concepts - for instance, it would have demanded enough running time that they would have had to trim away the whole mind-rape thing. That scene served nothing except to further illustrate how <I>evil</I> Picard's evil twin was. Yeah, we got that when he murdered the entire Senate. Not to mention dressing like Pinhead. Emotionally scarring a major character (and feeding the rape fetishes of a whole <I>dominate Troi</I> subculture - you know there is one, this is the internet after all. Rule 34, people) simply to prove a point <I>that was already proven</I> does nothing to endear yourself to your audience. Except maybe the <I>dominate Troi</I> subculture. And that fanbase canNOT have enough money to justify that!<br /><br />And, honestly, if they really <I>were</I> pandering to some fetishists out there, it would somehow have involved <B>B4</B> in the rape. I'm just sayin'...<br /><br />Tacking on the Remans without even a casual reference in any previous Trek show...well, it smacked of tacking on the whole <I>Cardassian War</I> partway through TNG. It worked there only because of how well-written that first episode was, about how it was more about O'Brien and the underlying themes of revenge and desperation, and, ultimately, with how much was done with them in later shows. Here, they have no time to be developed...<I>and aren't even integral to the plot of this movie!!</I> Seriously, there wasn't any reason to have them - they could have just used a criminal class of plain-vanilla Romulans, rather than trying to set up something fundamentally new about Romulan society <I>without bothering to then do anything with it</I>.<br /><br />Guh. I'm rambling. I wanna go see the new movie.Ian Sokoliwskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088518873613161316noreply@blogger.com